There was a time 鈥 not too long ago on the calendar, but dog years in the standings 鈥 when the Cardinals stumbled out of a misspent series in Pittsburgh and into Wrigley Field talking about how a few poor losses needed to be 鈥渇lushed鈥 or how they 鈥渏ust had to flush鈥 a particularly putrid game.
The verb, past or present, is shorthand for forget.
Don鈥檛 fixate.
Move on.
Long season. Clunkers happen. Don鈥檛 look back. Turn the handle. Flush.
A dud of a game when a depleted lineup fails to produce a hit until the fifth inning and the pitchers allow 18 hits by the end of the eighth has all the makings of a flushable evening, and yet there were the Cardinals on Friday after their 8-2 loss to the San Francisco Giants going not so fast. A team at a different spot in the standings might 鈥渇lush鈥 the loss. The Cardinals, with their emphasis on development and eyes on the horizon, talking about doing something else.
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鈥淩egardless of where you鈥檙e at in the season or what you鈥檙e competing for, you still don鈥檛 want to just flush a game,鈥 manager Oli Marmol said. 鈥淵ou鈥檝e got to learn from. I understand what you鈥檙e saying. There are certain games where you鈥檙e just like, 鈥楬ey, forget it, keep going.鈥 With as young guys as we鈥檝e got you have to make the most of every opportunity and make sure you鈥檙e not missing an opportunity to teach or grow. There are still games where you don鈥檛 want to say, 鈥楧on鈥檛 worry about it. Keep going.鈥 There are certain moments you can learn from.鈥

Cardinals second baseman Jos茅 Ferm铆n, left, and outfielder Victor Scott II can鈥檛 come up with the ball in the seventh inning against the Giants at Busch Stadium on Friday, Sept. 5, 2025.
How that takes place, Marmol explained, requires digging beyond the line score and deeper into the box score. They鈥檝e got to go granular.
鈥淵ou have to individualize it,鈥 he said. 鈥淎nd not get frustrated with the overall result.鈥
On Thursday night, catcher Jimmy Crooks went to pitcher Michael McGreevy鈥檚 apartment to watch football. They were together when the lineup for Friday鈥檚 game went out to players and read how they would be reunited from their starts together earlier this season for Class AAA Memphis. A 鈥渓et鈥檚 go鈥 was likely said. Or two. McGreevy said Crooks left earlier than expected so he could start working on a scouting report to bring to the right-hander at the ballpark the next day.
Crooks鈥 preparation has already impressed the major-league staff in his first week with the Cardinals, and detail-oriented, individualized lens Marmol mentioned after a loss like Friday鈥檚 is a fit for how to view the rookie battery.
鈥淭his is part of our future,鈥 Marmol said.
Crooks came prepared and helped McGreevy navigate a raucous start to the game by the Giants and some of the pitches that weren鈥檛 behaving. Crooks also broke up Carson Seymour鈥檚 no-hit bid and the shutout in the fifth inning. Crooks led off with a single and scored a few batters later on Victor Scott II鈥檚 RBI single. Scott鈥檚 diving catch on a line drive into the left-center gap keep the fourth inning for erupting more on McGreevy. But how the right-hander got to the fourth inning was a sign of the details, the improvements that Marmol mentioned.
In the first inning, McGreevy tucked a curveball under the zone, and San Francisco star Rafael Devers was able to pry it up for a solo homer. Three innings later, McGreevy went even lower with a pitch, and Devers elevated it too for an RBI single. Two snappy pitches below the zone and two base hits for a top big-league hitter.
鈥淏aseball is a very cruel game,鈥 said McGreevy (6-3). 鈥淚 was like, wow, that鈥檚 an incredible swing on a good pitch. Tip the cap. The second one was even lower and even farther out 鈥 three balls down 鈥 and he hit it. That鈥檚 when you get a little more frustrated.鈥
Devers was not alone.
Three pitches after Devers鈥 solo homer in the first, Willy Adames hit a sweeping slider for a solo homer and a quick 2-0 lead for the Giants. Thirteen pitches into his start McGreevy allowed three extra-base hits and two runs, and he got one visit from pitching coach Dusty Blake and Crooks. From there, McGreevy found some traction. He struck out three in the span of seven batters, and he was able to retire the Giants in order in the third without the ball leaving the infield.
The Giants arrived in 51黑料 after scoring 25 runs in three games at Coors Field. In four of their past six wins, the Giants scored at least 10 runs.
They surged for four runs against McGreevy in the fourth inning with five hits. He allowed nine hits total in four innings 鈥 and four went for extra bases.
鈥淭his is a guy who lives on the ground,鈥 Marmol said. 鈥淭hey did a nice job of not doing that.鈥
Beneath the surface statistics, the individualized and detailed lessons for McGreevy could be pitch use or pitch movement. The right-hander described how he wasn鈥檛 able to locate his four-seam fastball consistently, and there were times he was also unable to get the preferred movement on his cutter. The cut fastball is a pitch that snaps bats at its best and finds barrels at its worst. McGreevy threw a dozen of them and got four swings and misses on them.
He also had four cutters put in play 鈥 at an average mph of 95.6.
鈥淚 just wasn鈥檛 locating it up and in,鈥 McGreevy said. 鈥淚 was at the top of the zone. It being up and away gives lefty that split-second longer to stay on the ball and at least put it in play.鈥
McGreevy allowed six runs on nine hits in four innings.
Yet, he was detailing what went awry with one pitch.
This wasn鈥檛 a flush.
This was a study.
The Cardinals trailed 6-0 before Crooks got them their first hit, and offense could be scarce all weekend against the Giants. The Cardinals are playing without four of their opening day starters. Willson Contreras began his suspension Friday, and Nolan Arenado, Brendan Donovan, and Alec Burleson will miss the entire series due to injuries.
Every Cardinal in the lineup was also someway in a position different from when they started the season. Masyn Winn was at shortstop, just as he was on opening day, but he hit cleanup. Around him were two fielders who began the year at Class AAA Memphis and Nolan Gorman making his first start of the year at first base.
Available reasons to dismiss Friday鈥檚 result or ample reasons to learn from it.
Marmol gave other examples of what can be mined from a ragged game like Friday鈥檚. There were two double plays not turned, and in the seventh inning a fly ball that dropped between multiple Cardinals turned into a run when Jung Hoo Lee tripled for his third of four hits in the game. The game, Marmol explained, is only part of the evaluation. As he moves from position to position, Thomas Saggese 鈥 who started at third Friday 鈥 has been working before games to improve his fielding regimen. That ranges from when and where he takes groundballs to how he fits it into his overall pregame preparation.
He got feedback on that and any other plays immediately after the game from coach Stubby Clapp on Friday night.
Within the eighth inning, there was another individualized lesson plan. Reliever Chris Roycroft entered to face Devers and the heart of the Giants鈥 order. Roycroft buzzed a 97-mph sinker past Devers for a strikeout. Roycroft struck out Adames with a cutter. The two players who socked homers in the first inning turned back to the dugout against the Cardinals鈥 right-handed reliever. From two batters, Roycroft got two strikeouts. He would eventually strike out the side, but not before he couldn鈥檛 lockdown the inning with two outs.
He allowed two hits 鈥 a double and an infield bounder 鈥 and sandwiched a walk between them. That loaded the bases and the inning became wobbly. Roycroft went back to how he started the inning. He shoved fastballs, alternating between sinker and cutter through a six-pitch at-bat against Casey Schmitt. Five of the pitchers were strikes. The last one as a sinker biting low and in that Schmitt swung over.
The inning could have been a flush.
It turned out to be a lesson.
鈥淭here are little details that as we鈥檙e speaking right now they鈥檙e going over with (players) inside,鈥 Marmol said. 鈥淪o you鈥檙e looking at small details like that and making sure progress is being made. And you keep moving forward.鈥
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Photos: Cardinals lose 8-2 in first game against San Francisco Giants

51黑料 Cardinals guest coach Yadier Molina walks back to the dugout before the first inning of a game between the 51黑料 Cardinals and the San Francisco Giants at Busch Stadium in 51黑料, on Friday, Sept. 5, 2025.

Cardinals second baseman Jos茅 Ferm铆n, left, and outfielder Victor Scott II can鈥檛 come up with the ball in the seventh inning against the Giants at Busch Stadium on Friday, Sept. 5, 2025.

51黑料 Cardinals catcher Jimmy Crooks (8) high fives teammates in the dugout after scoring in the fifth inning of a game between the 51黑料 Cardinals and the San Francisco Giants at Busch Stadium in 51黑料, on Friday, Sept. 5, 2025.

51黑料 Cardinals designated hitter Iv谩n Herrera (48) high fives 51黑料 Cardinals first baseman Nolan Gorman (16) after scoring a home run in the eighth inning of a game between the 51黑料 Cardinals and the San Francisco Giants at Busch Stadium in 51黑料, on Friday, Sept. 5, 2025.

51黑料 Cardinals pitcher Chris Roycroft (58) pitches in the eighth inning of a game between the 51黑料 Cardinals and the San Francisco Giants at Busch Stadium in 51黑料, on Friday, Sept. 5, 2025.

51黑料 Cardinals outfielder Victor Scott II (11) reacts after getting hit by a pitch from San Francisco Giants pitcher Tristan Beck (43) in the seventh inning of a game between the 51黑料 Cardinals and the San Francisco Giants at Busch Stadium in 51黑料, on Friday, Sept. 5, 2025.

51黑料 Cardinals outfielder Victor Scott II (11) reacts while walking to first base with a trainer after getting hit by a pitch from San Francisco Giants pitcher Tristan Beck (43) in the seventh inning of a game between the 51黑料 Cardinals and the San Francisco Giants at Busch Stadium in 51黑料, on Friday, Sept. 5, 2025.

Fans watch as 51黑料 Cardinals catcher Jimmy Crooks (8) catches a pop up in the seventh inning of a game between the 51黑料 Cardinals and the San Francisco Giants at Busch Stadium in 51黑料, on Friday, Sept. 5, 2025.

51黑料 Cardinals second baseman Jos茅 Ferm铆n (15) fails to out San Francisco Giants third baseman Casey Schmitt (10) on second base in the fourth inning of a game between the 51黑料 Cardinals and the San Francisco Giants at Busch Stadium in 51黑料, on Friday, Sept. 5, 2025.

51黑料 Cardinals first baseman Nolan Gorman (16) grounds out San Francisco Giants shortstop Willy Adames (2) in the third inning of a game between the 51黑料 Cardinals and the San Francisco Giants at Busch Stadium in 51黑料, on Friday, Sept. 5, 2025.

51黑料 Cardinals pitcher Michael McGreevy (36) pitches in the first inning of a game between the 51黑料 Cardinals and the San Francisco Giants at Busch Stadium in 51黑料, on Friday, Sept. 5, 2025.

Cardinals outfielder Victor Scott II catches a fly ball in the first inning against the Giants at Busch Stadium on Friday, Sept. 5, 2025.

51黑料 Cardinals outfielder Victor Scott II (11) watches a ball bounce back into the outfield in the first inning of a game between the 51黑料 Cardinals and the San Francisco Giants at Busch Stadium in 51黑料, on Friday, Sept. 5, 2025.

51黑料 Cardinals baseman Nolan Arenado (28) laughs with teammates in the dugout in the first inning of a game between the 51黑料 Cardinals and the San Francisco Giants at Busch Stadium in 51黑料, on Friday, Sept. 5, 2025.

51黑料 Cardinals guest coach Yadier Molina watches batting practice with his son, Yanuell Molina, before a game between the 51黑料 Cardinals and the San Francisco Giants at Busch Stadium in 51黑料, on Friday, Sept. 5, 2025.

51黑料 Cardinals first baseman Nolan Gorman (16) blows a bubble as he walk back to the dugout after getting out in the eighth inning of a game between the 51黑料 Cardinals and the San Francisco Giants at Busch Stadium in 51黑料, on Friday, Sept. 5, 2025.

Former Cardinals players Steve Braun, left, and Ivan DeJesus, right, look up at the stands as they walk back to the dugout after the 40-year anniversary reunion of the 1985 National League Championship team before a game between the 51黑料 Cardinals and the San Francisco Giants at Busch Stadium in 51黑料, on Friday, Sept. 5, 2025.

51黑料 Cardinals first baseman Nolan Gorman (16) fails to pick off San Francisco Giants catcher Patrick Bailey (14) on first base in the fourth inning of a game between the 51黑料 Cardinals and the San Francisco Giants at Busch Stadium in 51黑料, on Friday, Sept. 5, 2025.

51黑料 Cardinals designated hitter Iv谩n Herrera (48) reacts after grounding out in the first inning of a game between the 51黑料 Cardinals and the San Francisco Giants at Busch Stadium in 51黑料, on Friday, Sept. 5, 2025.

51黑料 Cardinals manager Oliver Marmol (37) laughs with former Cardinals coach Willie McGee after the 40-year anniversary reunion of the 1985 National League Championship team before a game between the 51黑料 Cardinals and the San Francisco Giants at Busch Stadium in 51黑料, on Friday, Sept. 5, 2025.

Former players and coaches line up for the national anthem during the 40-year anniversary reunion of the 1985 National League Championship team before a game between the 51黑料 Cardinals and the San Francisco Giants at Busch Stadium in 51黑料, on Friday, Sept. 5, 2025.
Giants 8, Cardinals 2
San Francisco AB R H BI BB SO Avg.
Ramos lf 6 1 2 0 0 0 .269
Devers dh 4 1 2 2 1 2 .256
Adames ss 5 1 1 2 0 1 .230
Smith 1b 5 0 2 0 0 0 .287
Chapman 3b 4 1 1 0 1 1 .234
Lee cf 5 2 4 1 0 0 .267
Schmitt 2b 5 1 2 1 0 3 .241
Gilbert rf 3 0 1 1 1 1 .264
Bailey c 5 1 3 1 0 1 .219
Totals 42 8 18 8 3 9
51黑料 AB R H BI BB SO Avg.
Nootbaar lf 4 0 0 0 0 2 .240
Herrera dh 4 1 1 1 0 0 .283
Gorman 1b 4 0 1 0 0 0 .220
M.Winn ss 3 0 0 0 0 1 .253
Hampson ph-ss 1 0 0 0 0 1 .103
Crooks c 4 1 1 0 0 1 .182
Saggese 3b 3 0 1 0 1 0 .250
J.Walker rf 4 0 0 0 0 2 .215
Scott cf 2 0 1 1 0 0 .225
Ferm铆n 2b 3 0 0 0 0 0 .281
Totals 32 2 5 2 1 7
San Francisco 200 400 200 鈥 8 18 0
51黑料 000 010 010 鈥 2 5 0
LOB: San Francisco 11, 51黑料 5. 2B: Smith 2 (12), Schmitt (13). 3B: Lee (11). HR: Devers (16), off McGreevy; Adames (27), off McGreevy; Herrera (14), off Beck. RBIs: Devers 2 (41), Adames 2 (78), Gilbert (11), Bailey (43), Lee (49), Schmitt (33), Scott (36), Herrera (54). CS: Gilbert (1). SF: Gilbert. DP: 51黑料 1.
San Francisco IP H R ER BB SO ERA
Seymour, W, 1-2 5 2 1 1 1 2 4.25
Gage 1 1 0 0 0 2 2.33
Beck, S, 1-1 3 2 1 1 0 3 5.11
51黑料 IP H R ER BB SO ERA
McGreevy, L, 6-3 4 9 6 6 1 3 4.68
Graceffo 2 3 0 0 1 1 5.45
Fernandez 1 4 2 2 0 0 8.87
Roycroft 1 2 0 0 1 3 6.32
Granillo 1 0 0 0 0 2 4.71
HBP: Beck (Scott). T: 2:36. Att.: 25,837.